From college lecturer to Callgirl and
back
A talk with author
Jeannette Angell
By Jody
Ewing
10/07/04
* Note: The following is the
complete interview, much of which is published here for the first time.
People
want to talk about it, and they ask the same questions over and over.
How did you get started? What's it really like? What kind of girls work
for the service, and what kind of people use it? They can't get enough
information on what seems to them a semi-forbidden world.
The job is working as a callgirl for an escort service - a world caricatured by pornography and speculated about by almost everyone. It's also a world where Jeannette Angell - with a doctorate in social anthropology - spent three years working as a $200-an-hour Boston callgirl by night while working as a university lecturer by day.
The French-born Angell, who earned her
master
of divinity degree at Yale and her doctorate from Boston University,
has written a studious, yet insightful account of those years in her
memoir "Callgirl," a behind-the-scenes look at one of
America's most
mysterious and misunderstood professions.
Angell's decision to work as a callgirl had more to do with rent than research. She'd just begun a new semester teaching a series of college lectures when a live-in boyfriend vanished, having first wiped out her bank account along with her prepaid salary. Boston's rent didn't come cheap and was also due. She needed lots of money, and she needed it fast.
The mid-level escort service, run by a woman whom Angell calls "Peach," stood out among the ads in that it required a minimum of some college education. Angell imagined the worst, but found most clients an invisible, unremarkable group of men: lawyers, stockbrokers, those about to be married and even university faculty. There were others, however, who insisted on degradation. "You're just a whore," a man named 'Barry' tells her. "You do what I say."
Angell kept her second job secret from those with whom she worked, and after confiding in a few close friends discovered the damage stereotyping breeds. She'd eventually give up her night job, but not before creating a new university course, "The History and Sociology of Prostitution," which explores both the history of prostitution and how mainstream society interacts with it.
In an e-mail interview from her Boston
home -
where Angell lives with her husband and stepchildren - she talked about
"Callgirl" and the most violent elements in society.
Imagine that a
person who doesn't know anything about you or your novels is about to
pick up a copy of "Callgirl." If you could tell them just one thing
before they started reading it, what would you say?
One of my teachers in grammar school, a nun,
used to say, "La vie, c'est bien compliqué." I'm not sure what
that meant to me at the time, but it's become the guiding principle of
my life, my writing, my interactions with others. Life is very
complicated indeed, and that's what makes it both difficult and
interesting. Stereotypes, racism, xenophobia - most negativity in the
world comes out of the natural human desire to oversimplify. Life isn't
simple, and that's what "Callgirl," "The Illusionist"...*all* my books
are about. That life is more complicated than it appears, and that
people really do their best, most of the time, to work through those
complications.
What does "Callgirl" attempt to do, and for what kind of reader was it written?
"Callgirl" is a window, an opportunity
for
readers to see into a world they would otherwise never know and to
experience it from the inside. That's really all. I think that once one
has read the book, it will be a lot less easy to make hooker jokes, for
example. Most of our hatred comes from
ignorance. Once
one knows people
from the excluded group (be they people of another race, religion,
political party, or profession) it's a lot harder to hate them. So
"Callgirl" was written for all the people who dismiss sex workers as
criminals, nymphomaniacs, people of loose morals. Just to have them
read the book is a step in the right direction.
What provokes
you to begin a book: an image, a character, a setting, a feeling?
Almost always a character, almost always that
character or characters in a situation that puzzles me. "The
Illusionist" began when I read a newspaper account of John Demjanjuk's
arrest for crimes against humanity; his son was quoted as hotly
protesting his father's innocence. Well, I remember thinking, of
*course* he'd have to say that, how could anyone accept that a loving
parent might also have been a torturer and murderer? "Wings" and
"Flight" are both about a family's choices during two world wars -
again, I found myself wondering about how women were responding to and
dealing with their families' participation in various facets of the
wars. I start with people and then examine how they think and feel and
behave under pressure.
What types of
characters interest you most? What sorts of stories?
The ones that we can't figure out. The ones
that haunt us, that we can't get out of our minds. My upcoming novel,
"In Dark Woods," came out of another newspaper account. I read years
ago of a woman whose child was murdered and who became subsequently
obsessed with the killer throughout his trial, to the obvious delight
of the media. What was going on in her head and her heart? Perhaps
that's why I'm fascinated by history, because it's filled with people
behaving in ways that I find inexplicable, and I spend far too much
time wondering how they came to act as they did!
You were born and grew up in France at age 21 - can you describe any differences in culture as far as how they, vs. the U.S., view prostitution?
There's a whole different take on
sexuality in
general, so naturally there's trickle-down to the issue of
prostitution. The United States has never shed its Puritan past. Just
compare this country's reaction to President Clinton's well-publicized
extra-marital affair with France's reaction to that of President
Mitterand - his wife and his mistress both attended his funeral. I
think that sexuality in general and prostitution in particular are more
accepted components of life than they are in the States. In the US,
everybody knows it happens but nobody wants to talk about it, as though
somehow the very articulation might make it real. In France, it's
discussed. French people don't make a distinction between the intellect
and that which is sensual; it's all part of the human condition.
Your
friendship with Sophie addresses "the addict's gift of the silver
tongue" - of making those who care about them believe they can help or
cure the addiction. When does one say "enough," and how does one know
they are doing the right thing?
Well, my description in the book shows that I
had no idea how to answer that question, back then. Sophie haunts me to
this day. I've learned a lot since then about dealing with addicts, and
know that one ought to say "enough" from the beginning. Help is not
doing what that person wants you to do, or even what you want to do -
help is getting them into rehab. Period. I didn't know that at the
time. In many ways, despite the sophisticated veneer I liked to assume,
I was very naive.
In Chapter 11,
while talking to a student, you say that parents want their children to
be independent thinkers, yet don't realize their children may make
choices that are different from their own. In this Baby Boom parent
era, when it comes to social issues (racism, sexism, etc.), is it
possible for an educated child to really get through to an uneducated
parent whose beliefs were firmly planted by their own uneducated
parents? If so, how?
Given the issues in family dynamics, I don't
know if that's possible. My father-in-law is racist. He's also in his
eighties and very ill. Am I going to change his mind? Doubtful. I'd
rather invest my time trying to touch people who still have time
and reason for change. We're all to some extent the products of our
environments and upbringing. I've not accepted much that my parents
believed to be true, but I also realize that they gave me the tools
with which to think critically, and that made all the difference.
Perhaps we can teach everyone - parent, child, friend, acquaintance -
best by example.
In today's society, the "perfect woman and perfect sex" are as close as one's computer and an Internet connection. "Callgirl" addresses this 'perfect woman' myth; she's there to please the man and has no needs, no desires, no demands of her own. Since neither prostitution nor Internet-based sex will ever disappear, how does today's intellectual woman compete with that "perfect woman" myth?
I think that the fantasies will always be part of being human, because we're none of us exactly what others want us to be - and nor are they perfectly what we want, either. Women do the same thing, you know - look at the success of romance novels: those are women's Penthouses, Playboys, Hustlers. Face it, we all have fantasies of what our perfect partner should be like. Ideally, we learn that those are in fact fantasies and that real life is - you knew this was coming back - more complicated. It's when that line between fantasy and reality becomes blurred that there are problems. I think that the divorce rate has to do with that line being blurred, that people are disappointed when their partner isn't a fantasy but a real person, and so they seek out someone whose very newness holds out the possibility of becoming the fantasy... until that person, too, becomes real, and the cycle repeats.
Your reference to Emma Goldman's phrase - "The most violent element in society is ignorance" - is more critical today than ever, yet people continually base opinions on ads they see on TV or ethnocentric ideals. When it comes to ignorance, what is its biggest danger?
Its biggest danger, I believe, is that ignorance is blinding. We fall in love with what we believe, and become resistant to change, to seeing a different viewpoint, to the point of not even acknowledging that there may even be another valid viewpoint. When that happens, we're blind - blind to ourselves, to others, to what matters. And if one of the goals of life is connection, then this has to be its opposite, because it disconnects us from the rest of humanity.
You recently appeared on Oprah. Can you tell me about that experience, and what you learned from it?
"Still naive after all these years" would
sum
it up nicely, I fear. I believed what I was told by the producers, and
I should not have done. They indicated that I would be promoting my
book, and instead I was presented in a sensationalist, tabloid format.
Oprah herself surprised me by not reading the book and by the personal
nature of her attacks (after the show, in the green room, she made a
point of embracing all of the other participants - then looked straight
at me and walked away). It's unfortunate that the show chose to go down
the sensationalist route, and ironic that I was essentially being
accused of being immoral; I found what they did to be far more immoral.
If
prostitution were to be legalized, how do you perceive things would
change?
Women would be safer. There's no question about
that in my mind. Right now, sex workers are extremely vulnerable
because they have few choices in finding safe employment and no
recourse when something goes wrong. Sex workers would participate in
their communities through taxation, as do other professions. Would the
stigma disappear? That's another issue, though it has been my
experience that the people who voice their disgust with prostitution
the most loudly are the ones who are the most titillated by it - so
that is, indeed, a different question. I strongly believe that it
should be legalized and regulated, which in essence has nothing to do
with the morality issues: there are plenty of other things that are
legal but, to my mind at least, not moral at all.
How has your
own life changed since the book's publication?
It's interesting - it's the first of my books
to have changed anything in my personal life. Usually I write a novel,
it gets published, people read it... life goes on. In one sense, it's a
job. But this time was different. It's understandable, of course - it's
the first book I've written that is about me, per se, rather than about
how I write or whether I can tell a good story. Many of the reactions
I've received have been about me, personally; and I'm learning to deal
with that.
Why do you write?
If I may borrow a phrase from Toni
Morrison -
"I'm just trying to look at something without blinking." That really
sums up my writing - I look at things and try and figure out why they
are the way they are, and the way that I do that is by writing about
it. I've always thought better with a pen (or PowerBook!) in hand.
Anything else?
Best questions of any interview I've done - and
I've done a great many! Thank you for allowing me to *think*.
For more info on Callgirl and the author's other novels visit www.jeannetteangell.com





